Đào Thanh Hưng

In 2014, the writer has his first time meeting architect Đào Thanh Hưng at AHL’s office at 93 Trần Quốc Toản street in Hanoi, Vietnam. At that time, AHL Architects was established for 3 years. It has been 9 years since the day he learnt about architect Hưng. Most recently, the writer and his college at Notes had the opportunity to sit and talk with architect Hưng at his new office, spending that afternoon talking about the 11-year relentlessly working of AHL Architects.

The conversation consists of many significant values, the writer believes that this content might be useful for ones follow and pay attention to architect Đào Thanh Hưng and partners at AHL.

Architect Đào Thanh Hưng AHL Architects’ office

Interview by
Trần Trung Hiếu
Phạm Hà Thu

Date
06.2023

Portrait by
Trần Trung Hiếu

Hello Mr. Hưng, what kinds of project has AHL been working on at this point? Could you share with us? 

Đào Thanh Hưng: We are working on several different projects now, focusing on ‘residential’ architecture. The latest ones are a small scale hotel project in Đà Nẵng and a service apartment in Hanoi concurrent with others projects. 

The newly finished project in Thái Nguyên city is phenomenal, we would love to hear something about the architecture of this particular project. 

It is the house of a Hanoi-based fashion designer, who wants to dedicate this as a gift to her mother in Thái Nguyên city. The mother lives alone in the house, sometimes when the designer pays a visit, she could still have her own private space. There are 2 main functional blocks: the business block in the front could be a coffee shop or a small mart, the 12x12m squared one in the back is for living space. The architecture stands for our investor’s designing style. She has a strong representation for using materials, structures and large slabs. The roof’s shapes are inspired by the folds of a lappet, yet guarantee their functions. The 6 porches fall downwards to protect the house from sun and rain. We are reviewing and learning from the values of traditional houses from our forefathers to implement in recent projects. 

The Porch House
Photo: Chimnon studio

At the present, architects seem to miss out details of setback, porch’s roof to answer the form of the considered-to-be “modern” architecture. In recent projects, we have paid more attention and figured out ways to utilise these details. This project, named as the Porch House, places emphasis on the use of porches which play the major role as significant buffer spaces between the functional internal room and the nature outside. 

The Porch House is that ordinary. The day photographer Hoàng Lê and I arrived at the house to take photos, it was 40-degree hot. Although people saw the concrete structure and thought it would be torrid, we could stay in the house pleasantly with the ceiling fan on and the doors opened, without using the air conditioner. Thanks to the setbacks in our design, the 12.12 block is relatively ventilated. Otherwise, if we close all the doors, it would be like an oven. (Laugh)

AHL Architects seems to be very “faithful” with residential architecture, it is hard to see other categories, must there be any reasons? 

It started from the desire and the thinking since we established AHL. Before opening this office, I had worked for 3-4 offices, both domestic and international. They focused on big projects. I wondered when I could see my design being built. Observing big-scale projects in Vietnam, I can spot that it is difficult to mind small details because of many reasons, objective and subjective. Referring to many foreign documents, I see that they do their work very attentively. When I and my 2 partners opened AHL, we cogitated on how to achieve scrupulous adherence to our project? We want to go the whole hog. Housing is considered to be something daily in life which is quite approachable and unlikely to be influenced too much by the market. This biggest reason truly makes me and others in the office to focus on this type of construction. Even today, I still think it is the right decision. 

Project 8×24
Photo: Triệu Chiến

Project LPH
Photo: Chimnon studio

Project TAC
Photo: Chimnon studio

At the beginning, we did not have enough experience working with clients, it took many projects and processes that we could gradually control the matters. To this point, I am confident to say that AHL masters the game. Our clients trust our proposal and decisions to be logical, made by a professional and dedicated team. All the decisions for building, materials and colours are entrusted to us. Architects always follow closely every stage of the construction to control the details. Unlike some offices, they would send the design and come check out the progress as supervisors, leading to many mistakes during the building process because the contractor is not qualified or the investor personally changes the details. We build what we draw, if there are changes, it is usually on our side since the construction process is a chance for architects to review the design before structuring, then the contractor will proceed as planned. Although everyone is busy and hard-working, all parties are truly happy with the fact that people do the right profession and duty. 

A corner at AHL Architects’ office
Photo: Trần Trung Hiếu

The first time seeing Mr. Hưng in the old office on Trần Quốc Toản street (Hanoi), the space was quite small. Now, the office is relocated to a more spacious one with numerous models, blueprints and recognitions. 12-year is a journey, not short nor too long, for an architectural office, to conclude the past 12 years in one word (or a sentence), what would you say and why? 

In the last 12 years, what I do best and see clearest is perseverance. I persist in walking on one specific path. For many people,a residential project is a foundation or a springboard that leads to bigger projects. Housing is accessible and easily awarded. We disagree. I truly want to work on the residential project.

In our book, there is a question: “Are you bored with housing yet?”. In fact, I think that each investor has their own request so why bother to be bored?

To me, this is to be consistent with one certain thought. 

The newly presented 11×22 book of AHL Architects, in which consists of 22 projects in 11 years since the establishment of the office.

What have you realised about the general architecture on your journey? And your particular/personal architecture?

Basically, I am happy about what I am doing. After 20 years working in this field, I always feel excited about the unknown person, investor and request I am seeing/having the next day. Although my scope of work is not much, there are many challenges such as how to depict a solution for the design, what is the idea, any keywords to follow, or construction methods… 

We never see AHL with too many employees, is this how you want to have – a studio office, or are you step-by-step creating a bigger one in the future?

This comes from the fact that I want to work on all projects as best as I can. To do my best, regarding my perspectives and my way, I have to join directly from the technical drawing, details to being at the construction, etc. I have been trying to maintain a 5-6-people office, it was the most crowded with 8 people. It is only me who manages the whole office, so this scale fits my energy. Instead of doing more projects, I want less. It is much better that the value of each project increases than adding more people and work.


Working with many investors in housing projects, what do you think about them now compared to the past?

The major part of our investors are young independent people, financially and professionally. They are experts in their works, and always the one to make decisions without being influenced by any factors such as family, relatives or friends. Moreover, they show true respect to architects’ opinions and actively give feedback when necessary. I particularly welcome critical thinking, I design homes for them, not for me. My fellow architects stair at the design and exclaim: “Gosh, how can you convince your investor with this?”. In fact, behind these ‘extra-ordinary’ designs are thorough discussions between architects and investors, they know clearly what they want and to me they are wise spenders. 

Project 32QT
Photo: Chimnon studio

Talking more about AHL’s common designs, we can undoubtedly see and feel that the shapes and facades of materials were interpreted visually strong, the curves and straight lines create clarity and consistency. The sense of architectural identity in a construction is always highly promoted in a modern and minimal atmosphere, which can be easily found in tropical coastal countries. Have you been influenced by this architecture or do you have your own philosophy and points of view in the current context?

I actually work quite instinctively. Our office’s architecture and activities reflect rather fairly my characteristics: straightforward and bold.

I have the contrast in me, between my firm appearance and my burning heart. My architecture is no different, there are contrasts between heavy and light structures (concrete, wood and steel); solid and empty spaces; naturally rough and smooth surfaces; darkness and brightness; nature and human beings (artificial elements), etc. Looking at the constructions we created, you can easily find a concrete wall combined with a white wall or a big piece/log of wood; a low and dark space positions next to a bright and high one. I particularly fancy them. The contrast, sometimes, evokes the view of comparison, or perhaps one who reads might devise a notion to it.

And about the tropical elements, as I have mentioned that this is something obvious. We are living in Vietnam – a humid and tropical country. I have concerned about this matter for years, every architect has their ways to leverage this factor. I personally review buildings of the old generations to pick out some expensive elements such as: porch, building’s aspect, porch’s roof. Once being clear about the details, we need to decide how to use them, whether we follow the old ways or would there be any adjustment to fit the design. 

Of course, it should speak the language of AHL. 

Project 32QT
Photo: Chimnon studio

What do you think about the identity of a Vietnamese living space in contemporary architecture? Specifically, about the “Vietnamese quality”.

People say “Vietnamese architecture is advanced and imbued with national identity”, more often than not, I question what is “imbued with national identity” and modern at the same time whenever I look at the old-fashioned Vietnamese house. Personally, I am travelling back to the past to exploit the needed elements for my work. Take a look at AHL’s projects in the last 5-7 years, people might vaguely notice this. I have applied what I have learnt in different ways, I wonder if they can see it. (Laughs)

We have noticed that concrete, trees and light are your most used materials. Must they have certain meanings or values to you?

Concrete is my all time favourite material, usually matched with steel or wood to create the dominant structural systems for our constructions. About the use, creating a concrete wall costs excessively more than a brick wall, yet, concrete is more sustainable, longer lasting, consuming less effort for maintenance because of the climate in Vietnam. 

I think more about the desire to play with materials of an architect. Primarily, concrete is not commonly used for walls, it is a bearing structure. A concrete wall sometimes can be the general bearing system for other structures to rely on. When using concrete, I can skip the surface finishing touch because the concrete is already the surface. I want to use the characteristics of the materials in my design, combine with the blocks and surfaces to create contrast. 

Project LPH
Photo: Chimnon studio

Looking out to the world’s architecture, what do you think about the housing projects similar to AHL’s?

I believe that housing is the most common construction in the world that architects can work on the most, especially in Vietnam. Residential project is also one that expresses the personalities of owners, the natural characteristics of the location and reflects the local culture. Each project calls for different solutions depending on the climatic and geographical characteristics. 

About Vietnamese architecture, what is it that concerns you at the present?

In the past 10 years, many offices including AHL are trying to improve the progression of architecture practice in Vietnam to be more professional, and architects’ positions are recognised more significantly by investors. Before, I felt that the role of architects was overlooked, they were considered to be some painters chasing after the investor. They did what they were told, it was a rough life for them.

Now, things seem to be more balanced and more valuable for architects. I am always appreciated people like Mr. Hiệp (a21studĩo), Mr. Nghĩa (VTN), Mr. Hào (1+1>2) and other 7x architects. They set the foundation for later Vietnamese architect generations to develop and to be known more in the world’s map, creating a community of architectural offices that everyone actively engages and learns from each other professionally. Promoting architecture through different mediums is also a hand in helping Vietnamese architecture to be widely known, spreading good values. However, personally saying that media platforms should sieve more “scrupulously” the projects and information so that architects as well as investors can have access to beneficial sources. 

At the present, everyone is working relentlessly and many architects can make their living by their professions and things they wish for. When one gets better, others around him get better, and eventually it positively spreads to the whole community.

What project do you want to realise the most?

Honestly, the housing project is not the only thing AHL aims for, we want to work on and join a project from A to Z, something that we can finish, the investor can be with us until the end.Now, if anyone asks me to design a private museum or an office for there private company, I would be extremely happy to say yes. The main thing is that I or AHL must be in charge from day one to the finish line, in every detail.

What is the quote that inspires you the most in architectural practice or generally in life?

It must be the one from my friend about kindness, it is what I pursue: Try to work kindly, treat people decently. Until then, good things come. 

A word from you to young offices like AHL 12 years ago.

Be diligent, hard-working, and do things kindly.

Thank you!

Our conversation started from 3.15 pm to 5.30 pm ơn a day in June, 2023. That evening, AHL Architects threw a party for a member who was leaving Hanoi to supervise a construction site in Đà Nẵng…until the completion of this project.